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Can I install an upright handlebar (curved towards me) on a touring bike?

Bicycles Asked by abl on March 23, 2021

I bike around the city on a daily basis, usually for short distances (5 km tops, typically less than that). I currently have a cheap, battered down touring bike that is nevertheless doing the job surprisingly well, and I think it can work for quite some time more with the proper maintenance.

However, I’d like a more upright riding position. I used to have a dutch-style bike and I found it much more comfortable than my current one, even though it was way too small for me. When riding my touring bike I very often find myself sitting as upright as I can while still holding the handlebar with the tips of my fingers, and I think, “only if this handlebar would curve towards me…”

So I think I have about three options right now:

  • Spend around $600 in a dutch-style bike (new or second hand). That’s going to get me a very heavy bike with 3 gears, maybe 5. My experience with this (the 3 gears part) is terrible.

  • Spend way more than that. I don’t want to do this, not because I can’t afford it, but because I park my bike in the street all the time, and bike theft is a thing here, not a rampant problem, but it happens. The more the bike is worth, the more likely it is to get stolen.

  • Spend a fraction of that on a dutch-style handlebar and install it on my bike. I’d need longer cables too, and maybe a wider seat in case the increased weight on it makes it uncomfortable, but it’s still cheaper and I end up with a better bike than in option 1.

So I guess the question is, is this a good idea? Or is there some danger that I’m not aware of? I feel there must be something wrong with it, otherwise I would have seen plenty of bikes like this already.

Edit
This is the model I have now (only the seat is different)

bike example

5 Answers

is this a good idea? Or is there some danger that I'm not aware of?

You can safely install different shapes of handlebars on all bikes (when done properly). If you want to keep your current stem, make sure you buy a handlebar with the exact same diameter as the old one (this is exact to a fraction of mm). Or if you want/need to replace the stem make sure you buy a stem that is compatible with your fork.

Edit after photo has been added:

I am quite confident you can safely replace these handlebars with "Dutch"-style bike handlebars. The most complicated would be to make sure you can safely use the brake levers. Adjust the angle by rotating the lever before tightening it down. Most brake levers allow to adjust the reach of the lever, in case you have trouble comfortably reaching for them. If you don't feel comfortable making these adjustments yourself, it would be best to have a bike shop do it for you.

Good luck!

You didn't provide much information on what handlebar you have now. Nor what brake levers and shifters are fitted on them. And this is where the costs might go up quite a bit. For example, if you currently have drop handle bars, your levers are not going to (safely) fit on the handlebar you want to use. So then you need to replace the brake levers and shifters, keeping then in mind that you need to buy levers and shifters that are compatible with your current brakes and derailleurs.

Correct answer by Superman.Lopez on March 23, 2021

If the currently installed stem is relatively long you could also solve this with a shorter stem.

You should also check your saddle position. Most of your weight should be supported by your feet, some of it by your butt and only a relatively small amount with your arms/hands. If your saddle position is bad it can make it hard to keep weight of the hands.

Answered by Michael on March 23, 2021

Although that bike has "touring" written on it, I wouldn't describe it as a touring bike. To me (and, I think, most cylists), a touring bike is a drop-handlebar bike similar to a racing bike, but with more relaxed geometry, mounts for racks and fenders, and longer seat-stays so that your heels don't hit your panniers. Typical tourers have reasonably narrow tyres (25mm or maybe 28), whereas yours seem much wider (35mm+). I would describe your bike as a city bike or hybrid.

The seat tube seems to be very leant-back, to me, which gives quite a long reach to the handlebars. Your stem is also pretty vertical, which means you don't have many options for bringing the bars closer with a shorter stem. You might get some mileage out of moving the saddle forwards on its rails, but that will also change your position with respect to the pedals. You could try a taller stem. Fitting different handlebars won't make any real difference, because you already find it hard to reach the flat part of the bars you have, and those will always be the closest part. Check with a bike shop to see if there's anything they can do for you.

Fundamentally, it looks like your bike doesn't fit you, and I don't see a lot you can do to make it fit better. And if you're not comfortable even on a ride as short as 5km, I'd say your bike is a long way from fitting you. Ultimately, I think you're looking at replacement.

I would get another hybrid, but one that actually fits you. Make sure you take it for a test-ride before you buy. That should be able to give you a reasonably upright riding position (make sure the shop knows that's what you want!) in a bike that doesn't weigh a ton and has a decent number of gears. And it won't be any more theft-prone than your current bike. I'm not sure what kind of dollars you're talking about (presumably not US dollars, since you use kilometers) but I'd expect to get a competent hybrid for about £400. Your current bike looks like it's in good condition, so you'll be able to recoup some of that by selling it.

You could also look at adapting yourself to your bike, as well as adapting your bike to you. In the context of road cycling, people often recommend yoga and core strength exercises to help get you more comfortable in a lower riding position – I assume the same would apply in your case. Also, if you're carrying stuff in a rucksack, you might be more comfortable with that load in panniers on the racks your bike already has. And cycling with a full belly makes getting low uncomfortable.

Answered by David Richerby on March 23, 2021

If you are living in one of the larger European cities you have the option of bike rental schemes that rent out decent city bikes. That is, not the vandalism proof kind of 'Boris Bike'. Some work on a daily rate with price caps for weeks or months. Others on fixed monthly rates.

For example, one of my family rents a good 7-speed Dutch bike for €18 a month from a Dutch start up company. In three years that accumulates to about the price of buying new an equivalent bike.

Such rentals may give you an idea what you really need. Or they may even obviate the need to own a bike.

Answered by gschenk on March 23, 2021

You could consider rotating your handlebars backwards so the bar-ends are facing you. You could keep the shifters/brake levers in the same position as they are now but this would be a disadvantage since you will have to change hand positions to be able to reach them (especially problematic when you have to brake suddenly) assuming your hands are on the top of the bars and not near the shifters/brakes. As an alternative to the current brake/shifter configuration you could consider using bar end brake levers and install them on the top of the handlebars so you can easily reach them from a higher up (on the bars) hand position. Bar end brake levers look like this: enter image description here enter image description here

I have photoshopped the image in the original post to resemble what it looks like to 'turn the bar ends towards you'. enter image description here (I am not 100% what the original poster of this answer meant with his answer so if the picture doesn't match his idea his/her input would be greatly appreciated, please let me know).

You could also use older style drop bar brakes and install them on the top end of your bars if there is enough room for them. It won't look as good but is a cheaper solution. The brake type I am referring to: enter image description here

The shifters could remain in their original location since they are less important than the brakes (if you can't reach your brakes you can crash, if you can't reach your shifters it might be inconvenient).

If you want to move your shifters upwards as well you could consider using friction shifters such as shown in this image enter image description here (Original post: Reversing Drop Bars)

Using dutch style handlebars is definitely an option but depending on your needs you might still need to increase the stem height (adjust it if there is extra length left or replace it if it's already at or near its extension limit). The shifters/brakes could be installed next to the grips on these handlebars (as they usually are): enter image description here (the bike in the image has no shifters but it is pretty much the same, place shifters next to brakes in same location as shown in the image)

To potentially resolve the issue pointed out in the comments by @Criggie♦ of the pipes sticking towards you which could be dangerous if you happen to fall onto the handlebars in a crash for example.. you could perhaps install bar end caps to at least lessen the risk of injury. These bar end caps come in two types in my experience, the type which you press in and the type with an expanding part which clamps the bar end cap in place when you tighten the bolt. I prefer the latter. They look like this: enter image description here

Answered by Italcyclist on March 23, 2021

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