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Potential p-norm on tuples of operators

MathOverflow Asked by Chris Ramsey on December 15, 2021

Consider $left[begin{matrix}A \ Bend{matrix}right] in B(H)^2$. One can define
$$
left|left[begin{matrix}A \ Bend{matrix}right]right|_p = | |A|^p + |B|^p|^{1/p}.
$$

Q: Is this a norm?

Consider the matrices $C = left[begin{matrix}1 & 0 \ 0 & 0end{matrix}right]$ and $D = left[begin{matrix}0 & 1 \ 0 & 0end{matrix}right]$. Then
$$
left|left[begin{matrix}C+D \ D+Cend{matrix}right]right|_p
= 2^{1/p}||C+D| = 2^{1/p+1/2}
$$

while
$$
left|left[begin{matrix}C \ Dend{matrix}right]right|_p + left|left[begin{matrix}D \ Cend{matrix}right]right|_p
= 2|C|^p + |D|^p|^{1/p} = 2|I|^{1/p} = 2.
$$

Therefore, when $1leq p< 2$ then
$$
left|left[begin{matrix}C+D \ D+Cend{matrix}right]right|_p > left|left[begin{matrix}C \ Dend{matrix}right]right|_p + left|left[begin{matrix}D \ Cend{matrix}right]right|_p
$$

and so $|cdot|_p$ is not a norm.

The $p=2$ case does give a norm as $$
| |A|^2 + |B|^2|^{1/2} = left| [A^* B^*]left[begin{matrix}A \ Bend{matrix}right] right|^{1/2} = left|left[begin{matrix}A & 0 \ B & 0end{matrix}right] right|
$$

which allows one to use the triangle inequality for $M_2(B(H))$.

My question is what happens for all of the other cases, $p>2$?

One Answer

No, the expression $$ left|left[begin{matrix}A \ Bend{matrix}right]right|_p = | |A|^p + |B|^p|^{1/p}. $$ is not a norm for any $2<p<infty$ (so it is a norm if and only if $p=2,infty$).

I will justify that by proving that the triangle inequality for this expression would imply that the map $tmapsto t^{p/2}$ is operator monotone, which is well-known to be false (Loewner).

Lemma. Given $A_1,A_2$ bounded positive operators on a Hilbert space, the following are equivalent:

  1. $|A_1+B| leq |A_2+B|$ for every positive operator $B$.
  2. $A_1 leq A_2$.

Proof: one direction ($2. implies 1.$) is obvious. For the other, let $u$ be a unit vector, $P_u$ the rank one orthogonal projection on $mathbf{C}u$ and take $B= s P_u$ for $s>0$ (large). Then a small computation gives that $|A_1+B| = s + langle A_1 u,urangle + O(1/s)$, so making $s to +infty$, we obtain that 2. implies that $langle A_1 u,urangle leq langle A_2 u,urangle$. The lemma is proven.

Assume for a contradiction that your expression was a norm. Then for any $C$ of norm $<1$, we can write $C$ as the average of two unitaries (see here), and therefore (for arbitrary $A,B$) we can write $left[begin{matrix} CA \ Bend{matrix}right]$ as a convex combination of elements of the form $left[begin{matrix}UA \ Bend{matrix}right]$ for unitares $U$, which all have the same "norm" $| |A|^p + |B|^p|^{1/p}$, and therefore we would have $$| |CA|^p+|B|^p| ^{1/p}leq | |A|^p + |B|^p|^{1/p}.$$ So by the Lemma we would have $$ |CA|^p leq |A|^p$$ for any $A$ and any $C$ of norm $leq 1$. Note that every operator $leq |A|^2=A^* A$ can be written as $|CA|^2$ for some $C$ of norm $leq 1$. So we have reached the desired conclusion that the map $tmapsto t^{p/2}$ is operator monotone.

Answered by Mikael de la Salle on December 15, 2021

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